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Post  Skywilhur Mon Oct 19 2009, 10:27

Cause no1 want talk about warrs i will say few words.I will tell ppl something about tanks,cause i'm not god like dps.
1.Talents:
-In arms talents increase your parry chance by 5%(5 talent points)
-Inprotection increase the important things and that is dodge,block,stamina,last stand and shield wall,all other set as u wish

2.Sockets:
-I use dodge sockets,but u can use stamina sockets for stamina tanks,dodge sockets to increase dodge chance to your tank,or defense to increase block chance(the most) and parry and dodge too,and parry sockets to increase parry chance...I prefear combination dodge defense sockets or parry defense sockets.So you decide what u like.
20 dodge = 0.57% dodge
20 parry =0.57% parry
20 defense =0.47% dodge,block and parry
30 stamina = 400 hp

3.Enchats:
-For enchants use stamina on all,on shield use 15 shield block rating cause that give 1.57% block chance and on hands use 2% treath and 10 parry,on weapon use agility cause that give dodge,armor and crit chance.
4.Glyphs:
-Use glyph of Last stand(reduces cd of last stand on 2min),Glyph of Shiel wall(reduces cd of shield wall on 2 mins too) and glyph which increases taunt ability by 18%.
5.Gear(Ulduar):
-I have full t8 but i don't use full t8 on me and i've maked combination of sockets and enchants on me so my status now is 560 defense,28% dodge,32% block and 15% parry and 32k hp.
-If u don't have ulduar gear i suggest you to use stamina sockets until u get better gear so you can increase your status.

6.Tactic:

-I won't tell you my tactic cause you can copy it,but u will get your own tactic.

Warriors on this server are buged so defense don't work perfectly and many people use stamina sockets and only increasing stamina,but i prefear increasing status and i suggest it to all...

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Post  Druix Mon Oct 19 2009, 11:35

i'm not playing warr but i just have to say that u shoud write more about tanking process...Making guide is not the way to show yourself and your stats. And i would like to add smt. get capped with def rating then increase hp
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Post  Yourself Mon Oct 19 2009, 14:36

little tip for pvp and pve(tanking) macros:



PVP
arms:
first thing first , players alwase try to stun you so the best thing for a warr to have are the following talents : http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=29838 and http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16492 for health regen

2nd thing you must have is slowing spells http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=1715 and http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12323

3th warrior weapon is his world so, without it, he is useless so http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20505 is a good idea.

4th http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=23920 can be used in battle stance , making this macro will help you A LOT

/Equip [name of shield]
/Equip [name of weapon (1 hand)] *optional i use it to keep attacking while swaping gear
/cast Spell Reflection
/Equip [name of weapon (2handed)]


the macro works this way: first click will gear the sword and shield only , it wont cast. Click the macro again and it will cast Spell Reflection and equip back the 2H weapon, i dont know if thats a bug BUT it still works, you will be equiped with a 2h weapon but you will keep the Spell Reflection buff for the 4 sec reflecting the next spell casted on you.


PVE (TANKING)

i have only 2 tips for this
1st: Stamina warriors tanks are sucks (my opinion) , warriors are made for block and dodge so the best gems / enchants you can put on you are Dodge gems and defence gems / enchants

2nd: Heroic strike make EXTRA THREAT and DONT share cooldown with Devastate so do the following macro:

/cast Devastate
/cast Heroic strike

this will double the threat you do with a warr tank Wink

PS: fastest weapon are better for warr because the heroic strike only cast when the warr do a melee attack, you dont need rage from attacks, boss will give you all the rage you need, so spamm as much as you can this macro .



i hope this will help

PPS: this was made by me , i didnt copyed this from anywhere i discovered those tricks alone.
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Post  Yourself Mon Oct 19 2009, 16:54

PS: Orcs Tank DO NOT EVER USE YOUR RACIAL SKILL WHEN TANKING !!! it reduce healing by 50% on YOU that means 50% LESS heal SO DONT USE IT !!!!


im saying this because iv already say l33t's doing it -.-"
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Post  Yourself Mon Oct 19 2009, 16:57

for enchants (TANKING) Get as most defence enchants you can get , back, shield, helm, shoulder, gloves and Blade ward for the weapon (i think it stack 5 times , 5% parry each stack, iv already got 4stacks 20% more Parry w00t [O.o] )
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Post  Skywilhur Wed Oct 21 2009, 06:06

I aggre with yourself,stamina tanks are sucks,they can't block dodge or parry attacks...they suck
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Post  Skywilhur Wed Oct 21 2009, 06:19

Druix said i write about tanking process, so i will write few words...

From spells use:
1.Use Shield block http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2565,for blocking attacks.
2.Use Devastate to make some dmg to get aggro http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47498
3.Use surender armor when u trow this debuff on boss u will hit him with more dmg http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=7386
4.I forgat to say but u must be in Defensive stance when u tanking http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=71
5.Revenge is good spell to take aggro and stun the moobs and shockwave is good too
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=6572
6.Use Commanding shout to increase your HP fo 2250 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47440
7.Use spell reflect only when u shore u won't pull moobs,like u can use it on Gothik in NAXX http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=23920
8.Use taunt for agrro http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=355
Enough for today...
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Post  Yourself Wed Oct 21 2009, 06:53

dont use http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59089 (improved shield reflect) this is the bug that pull every mobs , if u dont have this talent you WILL only shield reflect back to the caster and not to every single mobs in the instance. plus use Warbringer for combat charge in protection ... this will improve a lot of tanking and help to protect your party http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57499 . http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3411 (Intervene) also works fine, use it.


Warrior tank = keep the party safe AND tank boss at the same time, this is the best char to tank ANYTHING , u may think DK is better but i disagree, DK are good at being beated up by the boss and holding still, they cant controle a party, a warrior tank is the best choice for any occasion, 3 taunts, stuns, protections that reduce spell AND melee domage .... bla bla bla... i can name 10 good reasons for a warr to tank but i have more things to do right now, the point is, if u know how to tank with a warrior, no 1 dies in your raid.
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Post  Yourself Wed Oct 21 2009, 09:08

BTW ,to prot warr, when you are watching your stats and see:

20% dodge
10% parry
30% Block


and say "WTF? only 10 parry ??? O.o" dont worry , leave the parry to the DK's warriors are made for Block and dodge, for the parry situation , i have a little tip: Get Blade Ward enchant and your problem is solved, as i said above, it give you up to 5 stacks (i guess, my personal score was 4 stacks) each stack give you 5% parry, so get this and you are good to go.


if u wana know anything else about tanking feel free to ask ill tell you what i know
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Post  Skywilhur Wed Oct 21 2009, 12:11

I aggre with you yourself the spell reflect is buged,but u can use spell reflect at Gothik i used it 1000 times when i tanked gothik...but on another bosses is true the with spell reflect you can pull all moobs,it's buged on fs...
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Post  Pute Wed Oct 21 2009, 16:15

Nice work ! only keep upg it Smile
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Post  Mihajlo Thu Oct 22 2009, 02:53

First thing about warr tank is to be skilled to not make mistakes and isnt always in the gear.
Someone may have naxx gear and can be better than all.
So about tanking gear u cant talk what u need to have and dont coz i have a friend and he is naxx geared and he can tank all bosses in ulduar very easy....(dont talk about tanking gear isnt always in the gear).
For tanking talents i use these http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LVZG0x0xZV0trx0didIbsGo and think these are the best coz u get extra HP form the comanding shout (the talent in fury Commanding Presence).
Sockets:
Well 1st thing u need to have 445 defense so u wont get critted in istances and def works fine btw, if u get 445 defense the u just stack stamina sockets if ur gear is DODGE, but if ur gear is on block value dont stack stamina stack dodge sockets or smth else.
Enchants:
Its the same as the sockets if u have the def you better ench ur self with stamina and other things like stats, threat ench and all other.....
Glyphs:
Well i use Glyph of last stand to reduce the CD of last stand, Glyph of Shield wall(reduce CD of shield wall) and Glyph of Blocking(Increase ur block value by 10%).
How to Pull:
When u pull bosses or smth else dont you EVER use taunt hit the with bow, gun or smth else that can range hit the boss so u can get agro at the beggining and if healers take agro u will have taunt and after that u can kill the boss Smile

BTW skywilhur 28% dodge and 32% block u cant have even the best warrs dont have those stats if u have dodge gear u can have 28 but u CANT have 32 block!!!!!!! You can have those stats if u are buffed.....

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Post  Yourself Thu Oct 22 2009, 04:39

i have 20% Dodge 10 parry and 31 block, not possible to have 28% dodge and 32 block ... to get 28 u must have DK gear that means no block
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Post  Mihajlo Thu Oct 22 2009, 04:44

Well i have 23% dodge 25%block 13% parry and yourself i know that it is not possible to have those stats with warr, but that is what Skywilhur said -.-(he must be imba or smth)

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Post  Skywilhur Thu Oct 22 2009, 07:53

Yourself it's posible have 32% block and 27.87% dodge,cause i have trinket which give 4.72% block(that is only by trinket),second trinket give me 2.72% dodge and i have all sockets 20 dodge and all enchants on weapon and other things agility,cause agility is buged and it give me dodge,second think all tanks use 20 defense enchat on shield,I have 15 shield block rating on shield,sinisa has it too and it gives 1.7% block so count yourself,6.42 % block without any other items +5% block in talents,and something else i use shoulders from kologarn that is +3% block,4 parts of t8 it give dodgeabout 12-13% dodge with all dodge sockets and agility enchants,so check it out...
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Post  Skywilhur Thu Oct 22 2009, 07:54

i can have 35% block but dodge go down on 22%...
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Post  Skywilhur Thu Oct 22 2009, 07:54

Mihajlo you are stamina tank,your all sockets are 30 stamina and u have only 2 sockets 20 defense...
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Post  Mihajlo Thu Oct 22 2009, 08:30

t8.5 gear dont give dodge or block btw and with all ench and sockets there is no way u can have those stats.... ask all tank warrs will tell u the same things. Maybe u have those stats with buff trinkets on and all other thing. (if i press my trinket i also have 28% dodge unbuffed)


Warrs need HP btw coz bosses dont hit very much with melee the hit lot with spells and u cant dodge spell as i know -.- so its better to have stamina sockets when u reach the ur def 545.

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Post  Skywilhur Thu Oct 22 2009, 10:55

i will send u ss when server come on...
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Post  Yourself Thu Oct 22 2009, 11:07

Mihajlo wrote:t8.5 gear dont give dodge or block btw and with all ench and sockets there is no way u can have those stats.... ask all tank warrs will tell u the same things. Maybe u have those stats with buff trinkets on and all other thing. (if i press my trinket i also have 28% dodge unbuffed)


lol i get almost 50% dodge when i press my "altert" button lolz XD Razz
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Post  Mihajlo Thu Oct 22 2009, 17:47

/bravo Yourself you ROCK Razz Very Happy Very Happy Razz hope i can be that good as u 1 day Very Happy Cool Razz

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Post  Skywilhur Fri Oct 23 2009, 05:16

Yourself it's posible to have 28% dodge,but sinisa have more dodge than me he has 31.74% dodge and 22% block,14% parry.That is his status.He puted ss when he made application for BT guild and many people couldn't belive in that...So when he come back on FS i will ask him the he put ss on forum...3x34 dodge sockets us 102dodge and it's about 2% dodge...
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Post  Skywilhur Fri Oct 23 2009, 05:21

Yourself my idol...xD 50% dodge...
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